Time to return down the rabbit gap…
Holly Madison has opened up earlier than about her time within the Playboy mansion, notably in her hit memoir Down the Rabbit Gap: Curious Adventures and Cautionary Tales of a Former Playboy Bunny. It was so juicy they’re even making a restricted collection biopic about it!
So any time she’s prepared to spill extra tea, we’re all bunny ears. And in a go to this week to the Name Her Daddy podcast, that’s simply what was on the menu.
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The Peep Present creator talked about what’s change into of her relationships with fellow Playboy fashions, revealed what made exes Hugh Hefner and Criss Angel so related, and naturally gave us a fair higher look into what it meant to realize the dream of so many naive younger ladies — and the way it was extra of a nightmare.
The Girls Next Door At this time
One factor a number of followers is likely to be most interested by is Holly’s relationship with the OTHER two girlfriends from her time with Hef — Kendra Wilkinson and Bridget Marquardt. Drama among the many three wasn’t precisely a secret — in any case it was the premise of a actuality present that ran on E! for 5 years!
However is she nonetheless in contact together with her Girls Next Door co-stars? She answered very particularly:
“Bridget and I’ve at all times been shut. We’ve at all times been mates since day one. She is [the sweetest].”
Awww, that’s good to listen to! We really sort of figured she’d tried to place that complete scene behind her, together with Bridget. To listen to they’re nonetheless good warms the center.
However clearly the hosts needed to ask if she additionally has any sort of relationship with Kendra, to which Holly replied matter-of-factly:
Honest sufficient! LOLz!
However let’s make a journey down reminiscence lane, we could? Again to the place it began… the bed room.
The First Night time
Holly described that first hookup in her ebook, however this was one other tackle it. On this case she talked about how the only choice to let this man hit it emotionally locked her in for SEVEN YEARS!
She remembered feeling the strain to go all the way in which impulsively, saying:
“Everyone would go upstairs and mainly everyone would have s*x and I didn’t know what to anticipate. I feel I had the sensation that, that is my first evening out, perhaps I received’t be anticipated to do something my first evening. However then once I obtained up there, I used to be so wasted and thrown into it, that after it was executed, there was one thing concerning the expertise that made me really feel very uncontrolled.”
“For me, I’m already on this determined state of affairs and I’d already thought residing on the mansion can be an answer to my issues. I feel I felt if I have been simply to go away that evening and by no means come again, I’d have felt actually used and actually chewed up and spit out.”
So it seems like she felt like she had already been exploited at that time — so she could as nicely get the profit?
One other Playmate lately got here ahead saying Hefner didn’t actually sleep with all the ladies, however Holly flat-out denies that. The truth is, she made it clear anybody who stayed within the Mansion DEFINITELY needed to put out for the privilege:
“I needed to sleep with him first. I’m not making an attempt to slut disgrace anyone or something however no person ever obtained requested to maneuver in except they’d slept with him.”
Sadly, shifting in didn’t find yourself being every thing she’d hoped for both…
Falling For It
Holly says she didn’t actually have the vocabulary for it on the time, and even years later when she wrote her ebook, however she acknowledges now that Hef’s M.O. to get ladies right into a relationship was all of the “love bombing” and sweetness up entrance which can be “are tremendous cliche of groomers” nowadays.
However to that 21-12 months-outdated woman, him telling her she was “actually particular” labored.
Nonetheless, she didn’t get the primary girlfriend function due to how particular she was. She says the opposite ladies “pushed” her into it.
“No person needed it. At first I used to be flattered by it… I felt like I used to be actually particular. In the meantime, everyone else had been there lengthy sufficient to know what the deal was.”
The deal was having to maneuver into Hef’s room — which meant a fair tighter leash, a smaller cage. However it wasn’t simply Hef she needed to fear about — his thoughts video games, taking part in the ladies off of each other, meant she needed to watch her again from either side:
“Then everyone turned on me not lengthy after as a result of Hef realized he may use my good conduct as a comparability for the opposite ladies. Why can’t you simply behave like Holly does? Then they hated me. They have been like, let’s get this bitch out of right here.”
The truth is, she recollects the ladies at all times being at one another’s throats; as a substitute of outnumbering the person for energy, they have been simply struggling in opposition to each other continuously:
“It was actually cutthroat, no person obtained alongside, everyone tried to snitch on the opposite… No person actually needs to assist anyone out. Everyone needs a centerfold or more cash.”
She says it was “horrendous” her first few years there. And it solely obtained worse…
‘Boring Primary S*x’
OK, clearly everybody needs to know what s*x with Hef was like. We imply, he was a legend, he was with numerous lovely ladies for years, certainly he will need to have been an A+ lover, proper?
Really, no, at the least not in keeping with Holly.
She’s spilled earlier than, in her memoir, concerning the TVs taking part in porn whereas the ladies pretended to be interested by each other. However there’s extra to it than that.
First there have been the Quaaludes, which Holly says she watched Hef hand out like sweet to ladies “for years”. He infamously referred to them as “thigh openers.” So stylish. Whereas Holly didn’t partake of the tougher medicine, she did say she numbed herself with alcohol and might’t “bear in mind a time within the bed room I wasn’t wasted.” The truth is, she says, she was at all times “too tousled” to orgasm with Hef. Not that he put within the work.
No, Holly says Hef would NEVER “pleasure” the ladies, when you get her that means, and in reality would simply lay again and allow them to do the work. As she describes it, ultimately, for all of the pomp and circumstance, it wasn’t even that kinky — simply “boring fundamental s*x.”
She does assume looking back the septuagenarian’s “obsession with younger ladies was semi-gross” — particularly when paired with the very fact he had a “fixation” on how they have been groomed. Particularly:
“He would get mad if anyone wasn’t shaved.”
What concerning the penis? The Hef penis? Sorry to disappoint, however Holly says it “was identical to, regular.” Boo! So boring certainly!
Infants With Hef?
Holly informed the crew how grateful she was that she by no means obtained pregnant — which she is certain was due to his superior age — he was 75 after they met.
“I knew it was due to him. I used to be wholesome. He was simply too outdated. Thank god.”
However for some time she did strive. Why? She had dedicated herself to Hef, and she or he was following by:
“I assumed that is my final cease, if I need to have youngsters, I’m going to strive. I used to be like, okay, if I’m not going to have youngsters right here, that is one thing I would like to consider. This is sort of a loss of life sentence.”
She’s grateful that mind set — which stored her a stored lady for years — didn’t finally end in being pregnant although, or else it might have been much more everlasting:
“After I had first gotten into that state of affairs and one thing occurred in my thoughts that first evening I had intercourse the place I felt like, ‘Okay I did that. I like breached my very own boundaries and I wasn’t snug with it. Now I’ve to make this example into one thing.’ I nearly locked myself into this field in a means.”
Life At The Mansion
That field was little greater than a cage lined with pink, plushy pillows. Holly described what a nightmare it really was being there. “Pets” could have been the opposite magazine’s factor, however that’s undoubtedly how Hef handled the ladies, in keeping with Holly:
“I’ve seen folks are available in 5 minutes after 9pm curfew and dress down by him.”
Curfew?! Yep. Like they have been youngsters, and he was their guardian. So gross. However that didn’t cease all these younger ladies from going out and sowing their wild oats.
Holly revealed when she first moved in, there have been six different ladies residing there, together with her predecessor as Hef’s primary woman, Tina Jordan. A number of of these ladies, because it turned out, have been “relationship different folks on the facet” — and when he discovered, Hef obtained “tremendous jealous.”
Holly says she personally witnessed the mendacity as one woman (she wouldn’t say who) informed Hef she was going to go to household when she was “actually f**king Child Rock or one thing.” KID ROCK?! How mortifying! For everybody concerned, actually…
We guess it was after that debacle that he began cracking down much more. Holly confirmed Hef was insanely jealous and controlling. Not solely did the ladies have a curfew, even Hef was “very selective about how he curated his pal crew” in order to not give them any temptation to sleep with the opposite males who visited. Holly revealed his technique was by no means to have youthful guys round:
“He was at all times actually cautious about having different older males round.”
Sadly it wasn’t all jealousy.
Holly additionally described Hef as being a merciless accomplice, when you may even name him that. She really obtained suicidal at occasions whereas residing with him and took antidepressants for years. That mixed with the alcohol, and Holly says she really obtained so numb her “mind felt slower” after some time.
“I feel it was a part of being nervous, partly doubting myself, partly being on this atmosphere the place I used to be at all times ingesting and my thoughts was by no means stimulated. I used to be sort of at all times in worry of getting sabotaged by different ladies, getting kicked out, him yelling at me or embarrassing me in entrance of different folks.”
Gross. Holly can see it on her personal face when herself on TV, too:
“After I look again at Girls Next Door, particularly the primary few seasons, I see myself simply coping. I used to be actually stiff and never open and identical to a robotic and saying the kind of issues I felt Hef would need me to say and issues that made him look good. I can’t actually don’t remorse that as a result of I don’t understand how else I’d have coped. Now, I’m extra myself and extra open. I couldn’t have mentioned what I used to be actually saying or feeling, it might have been reduce. I used to be tremendous guarded and tremendous nervous about placing my personal life out into the general public.”
Why She Lastly Left
Holly says she knew she wasn’t pleased for a while. However that didn’t imply simply reducing and working — she’s not that sort of gal:
“I made a dedication to be with him and we talked about being collectively for the remainder of his life. I felt just a little responsible about leaving.”
Nonetheless, the children factor was a significant dealbreaker, much more highly effective than his maintain over her:
“However once I realized I wasn’t going to have the ability to have youngsters with him, that was a giant factor … and my melancholy was coming again and he would go and ask Bridget why I used to be depressed and he wouldn’t ask me. It was simply actually bizarre.”
However it was across the time the opposite ladies have been leaving that issues obtained the worst:
“As everyone was leaving, I began to appreciate it’s simply me and Hef, he began lashing out at me extra. I don’t know if he was simply careworn … I do know issues weren’t so nice financially for him, perhaps he had some stress, or didn’t have the video games of pitting the three of us in opposition to one another anymore. He began lashing out for actually silly issues and I simply realized I can’t be right here.”
Yep. In any case these years it lastly hit her:
“This man is an a**gap, I can’t keep right here.”
However there was one different huge think about driving her to go away Hefner. She didn’t need to change into a cheater — however there was a man on the market she simply couldn’t get out of her thoughts… freak.
Mindfreak. It’s Criss Angel. You get it.
In the event you thought the Hugh Hefner relationship was unhealthy, at the least Holly will say his title out loud. She’ll solely seek advice from her magician ex as “He Who Will Not Be Named”! LOLz!
She informed the Name Her Daddy crew:
“After I left the mansion, I obtained sucked into one other relationship that was actually unhealthy.”
She says Angel obtained maintain of her the identical means Hef did:
“I used to be so prepared mentally to be unbiased, however it was one other love bombing relationship and I simply fell into that.”
Fortunately it was quickly sufficient that she was capable of acknowledge the patterns — and ensure she didn’t get caught for an additional seven years!
“I used to be given one other relationship of the Hef relationship simply with a youthful individual and with out the culty-kind state of affairs round it… I actually really feel like that was actually despatched to me by the universe to be this remaining dot on the I, to be like, okay it’s essential by no means be in a relationship like this once more”
Fortunately it seems like Holly realized what she wanted to. And hey, that’s what your 20s are for, proper?
What has shocked YOU probably the most about Holly’s recollections of her time on the Playboy Mansion?? You possibly can hearken to the complete convo HERE.
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